>>> today the gun lobbyists at the nra got what they wanted on the floor of the united states senate and tonight lobbyists from the nra have made it harder for the fbi to find the murderer who planted the bombs here in boston .
>> the investigation into monday's bombing in boston intensifies.
>> there's a lot of information flying around right now.
>> we've heard conflicting information.
>> various media accounts right now as to whether or not someone is in custody.
>> a suspect is about to be arre arrested.
>> i have just been told that an arrest has been made.
>> we are not comfortable reporting that.
>> several law enforcement officers have told us that hasn't happened.
>> on the record, there's been no arrests in the boston bombings case.
>> here is what we actually know.
>> investigators have identified solid leads from video evidence.
>> investigators have obtained video.
>> surveillance video specifically from a department store .
>> the person placing a black bag down near the scene of the blast.
>> at the same time, they are piecing together the bomb parts.
>> it's a very promising lead.
>> tracking where they were purchased.
>> the investigation is proceeding fairly rapidly.
>> what happened will not change us.
>> it's not just an attack against boston , it's an attack against all of us.
>> there are new developments tonight in the bombing investigation here in boston . but that investigation could be moving faster were it not for the successful lobbying efforts of the national rifle association . the nra 's efforts to guarantee that american mass murderers are the best-equipped mass murders in the world is not limited to murderers who use assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. the nra is also in the business of helping bombers get away with their crimes. gunpowder could be traced by investigators to a buyer at the point of sale if gunpowder contain an element that would enable the tracing of gunpowder but thanks to the national rifle association , identification taggants are remembered by law only in plastic explosives. the nra has successfully blocked any requirements for such taggants in gunpowder. it's not available to the fbi in this investigation. the fbi tells nbc news it is following some promising leads. one in particular, video and images collected by authorities showing someone carrying a heavy backpack or duffle bag and placing it at the spot where the second bomb went off. key evidence is also being obtained from footage captured by a video camera above one of the bomb sites. that camera was on top of the lord & taylor department store . despite conflicting reports in the media, none of which came from this network, there has been no arrest of any individual or individuals at this time. the fbi and boston police are calling for restraint from the news media. adding to the confusion here in boston today, the federal courthouse was evacuated earlier this afternoon. employees were given what is known as a code red order to leave as a result of a bomb scare . we've obtained more tote toes from the bomb sites. here's a closer look at the fragments left from the pieces of a pressure cooker . nbc news' pete williams points out that one of the pressure cooker lids ended up on the roof of a nearby building because the force of the explosion was so great. this photo shows bbs and a nail believed to be part of the shrapnel in one of the bombs along what could be the zipper from one of those black backpacks or nylon bags authorities have mentioned. investigators know the type of batteries use and michael isikoff reports they were in a battery pack made by a company in california used to power toy cars and often for sale in hobby shops . officials have opened up more of the area around the crime scene , focusing their investigation primarily on those two explosion points and the stretch of boylston street . i'm joined now by massachusetts governor deval patrick . thank you for joining me.
>> thank you, lawrence.
>> i'd like you to tell the story about how you found out about these explosions. i heard you explain this on a local interview.
>> i had been out at the finish line crowning the men's and women's winners earlier in the day and i had finished up, i don't know, 1:00 or so --
>> you had done your governor duty for the day.
>> i did my governor duty. i had an unusually empty afternoon, i did some errands and i went to work out and i was driving home and my youngest daughter called from this neighborhood. she wasn't actually at the race but nearby and she said, dad, i heard two loud booms and everybody's running. what's going on? and i said, i don't know. but let me find out. and i asked the state trooper i was with whether he knew what was going on and he said, no, but i'll check in. and, of course --
>> so here's the governor of massachusetts , two bombs have gone off on boylston street at the boston marathon and you have the state police , you have all sorts of resources and the first call you get is from your daughter?
>> it was probably, is i don't know, 15 minutes after it had happened. and i think frankly, law enforcement was doing what is their first priority, which is helping those that have been hurt.
>> so you then, through the state police , confirmed that something really serious happened?
>> right. and of course, we were hoping that it was anything but bombs. we were hoping that they were celebratory cannons so we were trying to get close to the scene and take charge.
>> really what is going on here in terms of the investigation, how do you think the news media got so out of control on this today?
>> i don't know exactly the answer to that, lawrence. people are hungry for information. i understand that. and not just in the media to scope the story but in the general public . it's the kind of investigation that requires going through those several blocks around the blast scene, square inch by square inch , and that is slow and deliberate and methodical and it should be. i think that what i've been saying to people is it isn't so until the fbi says it is so and they have many federal and local agencies working with them.
>> you've gone to the hospital now and you visited with bill and denise richard , the couple who lost their 8-year-old son just a block away. what was that like today?
>> well, i know them. i have for some time. they have been active in my campaign. when i spoke to bill yesterday, he reminded me of a photograph that he has of martin when he was then two or three years old holding a campaign sign. and you can imagine --
>> the word came out that it was an 8-year-old boy. how soon did you know who that was and which family this was?
>> fairly, fairly soon.
>> before the names are released?
>> not too much before they were released. you guys are very diligent about digging up the information. but this is a wonderful family surrounded by a very loving community and we have all felt their loss.
>> i was out in your neighborhood yesterday, which is very close around the corner from where i grew up.
>> in dorchester?
>> yeah. and it is -- as you know, the mood out there is quite grim and down. what can you tell us about denise, the mother's injuries? and her daughter has lost a leg, we know that.
>> that's right. her daughter was in surgery today. i visited with both mom and dad . mom was out of surgery from yesterday and doing well. obviously tired, both --
>> was she able to speak?
>> yes.
>> she has a head injury , doesn't she?
>> i don't want to get into the details of her injury. we did talk and she was -- you know, she's feeling all those layers of emotion, both a sense of loss and the importance of rallying for henry and jane and for bill and for herself.
>> do they have a sense of how the country, not just boston , feels about their loss in particular?
>> that's a really interesting question.
>> there's a feeling that goes to the youngest victims in these cases.
>> i think they have a very, very clear sense of how martin in particular but the family generally has become a symbol for what has happened and kind of a touch point for all of our grief and i think they love that and are a little daunted by it at the same time, as a person would be.
>> the president is coming tomorrow.
>> yes.
>> have you had a chance to talk to him about coming to boston tomorrow?
>> i talked to him last yesterday morning. the days are blurring a little bit. his was one of the first calls after the explosion and explosions. he's put every law enforcement resource at the federal level at our disposal and i appreciate that he's coming to comfort us, really.
>> i know he and the first lady want to visit hospitals but there's some concern about how disruptive that might be with the presidential security and motorcade.
>> right. right. the president is very self-aware of that. he also -- he loves being with people and i think he understands that it's a different kind of comfort you can give when you can actually touch someone and look them directly in the eye rather than do respect through a tv camera . but also, as i say, sensitive to what the movement of a president does to a town. so they were sorting that out this afternoon. i actually don't know where that was left.
>> governor, what happened at 5:00 today? you were scheduled to be in a briefing, a news briefing with the fbi , the routine briefing that occurred every day. that was canceled. why?
>> i don't know all the reasons. the biggest issue in the late afternoon was the evacuation of the federal building where the offices are and that was disruptive to everybody. i don't know whether by 5:00 they were back in the building. but that kind of made a mess of the day and the work. their first focus is the investigation. and every minute they aren't spending on the investigation is time away from getting to the bottom of it. so i think everybody recognizes how hungry folks are for information and i think it's -- even if they show up and say we can't comment on those details -- and i think we'll probably see more briefings going forward. but i think people should also be prepared for lots of those briefings where they can't answer all the questions people have yet because either they don't have them or it's not the right time to reveal information that might compromise the investigation. so z --
>> governor deval patrick , thank you for being here.
>> thank you.
>>> coming up, investigators believe they have a suspect. we'll have the latest details in the investigation.
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